Combine Effects and searching a key

HI
i've got two problems

1st:
I want to combine 2 effects, a chaser and an focus effect.
Chaser is just running in my moving lights from left to right.
The effect is only on tilt, so they move up and down, like a wave.
But, i want the ML to be at full while it is "looking" down and slowly sneak its intensity(zo 0) when its moving up.

I Hope you understood my explanation.
Any Idea?

2nd:
Once upon a time, i found a key which i don't remember anymore ;)
All it has to do is remove my manual values. I want the red values to be gone. On stage the should still be there, but not marked red in the console anymore.
So a function rather similair to "make null".

Thanks!

Lukas

answering #2:

Are you thinking of the Sneak key, which removes the manual change, and returns the value to it's original source data (either submaster, cue, or no data)?

That will take the light out, so I don't know if that matches with "on stage the[y] should still be there."

Answering #1:

I don't know, but perhaps using Focus Palettes, Intensity palettes, and an absolute effect, and the time on the tilt move would be the same as fade in or out????

Good Luck

Andrew Riter

Q2 might be Update - if I'm understanding your intent correctly. You have to be careful what it is you're actually updating, though.

I haven't tried this, but it should work:

Make 2 presets, Preset 1 is your 'up' and Preset 2 is your 'down'. Record the position & intensity (& only the parameters that you want the effect to control) into the respective presets.

Create an absolute effect that references those 2 presets in each of the two actions (or steps).

Playing with the timing, grouping, etc should get you the rest of the way there

Making manual values 'unmanual."  

Channel select / Shift + Sneak

:-)

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Thanks a lot for your replies!

Sneak is not they key that i'am seraching for. They Key, or combination of that keys just removed red and painted the values different. I'll try what you suggested.

Jons answer sounds good, i'll also try it.
I've seen that effect a lot of times, but have never been able to rebuild it.
I'm using Ion/Eos for live concerts, too, so sometimes its a litte detour to get them do what i want or need. ;-)


Edit: Haaa, it works properly! I'm smiling like a child at x-mas morning
The only thing they still do as i don't want them to is, they dim into their intensity when they are at the beginning of the effect. But ok, i can work with it .
What i now have in the absolut effect is

PR1 down 100% time 2
PR2 up           0% time 2
PR3 down      0% time 0


Lukas

To stop the dimming at the beginning of the effect I believe all you need to do is change the entry time.  It defaults to cue/sub timing- if you make it a time of 0 it should snap in.

For an absolut effect, there is no entry time, is it?!
I have now done another step, with time and intensity 0. That works properly.

Question 1:

 

I did something similar with a linear effect.  The light moves & fades up, them snaps out and sweeps back.parameters: tilt and Intensity

Molly