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Re: Help with Displays

tomsnell — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:36:19 GMT

You can set a [Time] key for your RVI in the EOS shell. Use the RVI button in settings.

Hope that helps

Re: Help with Displays

tdrga — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:51:04 GMT

Wil-

In version 1.4.5, if the board op used UNDO, they would have to press [clear] to clear the command line and collapse the CIA on the client node. This was using a laptop as the client, so I don't know if that makes a difference or if the behavior has changed in ver. 1.7.

For the group display- the channel list is shown in order of channel entry. This is because order of channel entry matters on the EOS. To get the group display to show in order, you have to select the channels in order and record the group.

The hotkey for timing display is Ctrl-T.

Hope this helps-

Todd

Re: Help with Displays

dlderry — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:49:50 GMT

Regardless of what cue list is currently being displayed by the PSD, the information for the Master fader doesn't change. It is always going to be displayed in the section of the PSD just below the cue list and above the F1-F10 displays. When you are running cues on F1-F10, the follow time counts down in area of the display related to F1-F10.

To load different cue lists to any of your faders, put the cue that you want to start with on the command line (Cue 2/1 Enter) and press the load button for the desired location. You'll know see that cue show up in pending and the next press of go will run it.

Does that help?

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Sadly this does not help me, with my issue. At this point the show has moved on and I am back to simpler times, but it still remains I need to be able to see the follow times on ANY of my faders beside the master fader. I am on an ION not an EOS so I do not have a F1-F10 display unless its buried somewhere and I can view those as virtual playbacks somewhere. (That would totally help me out). IS this a possibility? The other answer would be to show information about active cues IN the cue list we are viewing on the ion. Itd be really cool if I could hit 6/ ENTER and see what is actively happening even if I have it mapped to sub 37. As it stands right now you CAN see that a cue is running, but the follow information isn't displayed, and this is where my frustration lays. Maybe another option is to also show follow information in the LCD display on the submaster fader wing. Anyhow, thanks for listening to me blather, I just feel like I am missing a tidbit of information on the ION that would totally solve a number of problems for me.

Regards,

'D'

Re: Help with Displays

jbenghiat — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:18:59 GMT

Wil,

Regarding CIA collapse, I believe this happens if the "default" state of the CIA is anything but the browser, but especially if you're in About or have activated an Undo or Update from the client. The solution I've found is to hit [Browser] ([F7]), and special CIA displays will auto-collapse.

I second the request to see macro keystrokes.

To display discreet timing, hold down [Time] ([I]). As of 1.7, this shouldn't post to the command line. On this topic, though, I would love some way to lock out the command line on an RVI or client so sustained presses of time or label don't accidently post. Ideally, it would also lock out tab switches that change from live to blind, e.g. live to groups. Something like caps lock would be great, so the client can quickly go from programming session/LD mode to notes/ME mode.

-Josh

Re: Help with Displays

wibonnell — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:46:29 GMT

hello.

i'm running Client v.1.7 on an EOS RVI and the CIA keeps getting stuck open after an Update or Undo command. usually it pops open to display undoable commands or data that is about to be updated, but collapses after execution. we're finding that it begins to get stuck open a little while into programming and must be F5-toggled closed. only way to reset is to exit to shell. this is frustrating because on a small display, the open CIA completely obscures the playback cuelist, and the LD doesn't want to have to manually collapse it.

a couple other display queries: is there any way that the Groups display could redraw channel lists sequentially, so that if i add (197) to a group, it shows up between (196) and (198) instead of at the end of the list? is there any way to have Macro editing keystrokes on the console be viewable in real-time on a Client station? and finally, is there a HotKeys keystroke to view discreet timing information? i can't figure out what it is, and when the programmer holds down the Data key on the desk, the pertinent info doesn't appear on my Client display.

thanks!

-wil

Re: Help with Displays

grahamparker — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:26:22 GMT

Josh,

You're not doing anything wrong.

At the moment because Tabs are not implemented on Ion you have no way of puling focus to and highlighting your PSD display as you can on Eos. This is why you can't zoom in on the display.

hope that helps

Re: Help with Displays

ox411 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:03:18 GMT

hello... im moderately familiar with the Eos and Ion, the show im currently programming is using an Ion. im trying to zoom in on my cue list, but im not having any luck. im clicking on the screen, then trying with the scroll wheel on the mouse, but no matter which screen i click, the tombstone channel screens are the only ones that zoom in and out. ive also tried holding format and using the level wheel but again i can only zoom in on the channel screen. i have 2 remote processors set up for the design team and im able to zoom in on their cue lists just fine by clicking on the screen then using the scroll wheel on their mouse. but i cant get it to work on either of my 2 ion consoles.

can you tell me what im doing wrong?

thanks

-josh

Re: Help with Displays

Anne Valentino — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:54:09 GMT

That will work. To release the submaster from the physical fader, press [Fader Controls]. The softkeys will then repaint and you'll see a release key. Hold that key down, and press both buttons on the sub you want to remove.

That unmaps that fader. You can then select the first cue of your second list, press enter. With that on the command line, hold down both buttons (that is the equivalent of the load button on the master fader), and your cue list will load to that fader.

Hope that helps!!

Re: Help with Displays

dlderry — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:08:40 GMT

It does to a point, I guess I should specify that I am on an Ion and I have the cue list loaded onto Fader/Sub 31. (We have a 2x20 wing.) I needed a 2nd cue list and with how my subs are set up 31 was the first available fader. But accoring to what you are telling me, if I can load that cue list on 1 of 1thru 10 I will see the follow times correctly then? Sorry just trying to make sure, especially considering I am not in front of the console until way later today.

'D'

thank you for taking the time to work with a newb like me. Our factory training isn't until the 17th, and I have a bunch of shows rolling through the venue before then so trying to get myself up to speed before then.

Re: Help with Displays

Anne Valentino — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:34:34 GMT

Does that help?

Re: Help with Displays

dlderry — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:31:00 GMT

Hiya Anne,

I think i know where my confusion comes in... When working with cuelist 1 the follows show up fun. My trouble comes in when I use cuelist 2 which I have mapped to a sub fader. Even when I load the cuelist over into the cue status display the follows do not show in the playback status area. I can see cuelist 2, but down where it shows the cue completeion stuff it still shows the in from cuelist 1. Since the durations show up when they are running up in the playback status area, should the follow just count down in the same place? I see only:

Master: List 1 (Small white letter with nothing underneath) 100% 0.0 199 (which is a cue from list 1) How do I load my other cuelists here?

In the window above, 'the playback window' my 2nd cuelist shows up and I can tell at least what cue I am in, but the playback line (CIA I think, not wholey sure of what all the CIA entails) reflects cuelist 1. Or I would think that where it says list 1 in the section I printed above, I would be able to select another cuelist.

For the record we have the 1.7 release software loaded.

Sorry if what I am saying is confusing, wish I could take some screen shots to send.

Re: Help with Displays

Anne Valentino — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:16:38 GMT

The follow time counts down in the playback status display. If you look at the active/pending cue box (below the cue list). You'll see a follow/hang counter (when needed), a percentage of cue completion and a "remaining time" counter.

Fan is included in an upcoming release.

Hope that helps.

Re: Help with Displays

dlderry — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:52:04 GMT

On the subject of displays I have a question.

On the ION, we just got a new one a couplle weeks ago. I have a cue with a 7 minute follow on it and we cannot see where in that follow the cue is. there is nothing in the manual to help and it is getting frustrating since every console i have ever used puts it in the playback status of the cue. Currently it says there is a 7:00 follow, but there is no countdown. How do I change that so I can tell my stage manager where I am in things. Also how do I fan times? A reasonable syntax would be chanells 1-20 [time] 5-10 (with an option of /2 , to denote an offset between heads.

'D'

Re: Help with Displays

Anne Valentino — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:15:19 GMT

In preparation for our upcoming software release, the initial document has been edited to reflect our new default views and provide some additional clarification on various symbols/icons you might see in some of the displays.

Re: Help with Displays

liamjf — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:22:19 GMT

Excellent! Something for the manual perhaps?

Cheers, Liam.