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tpw posted on 02-20-2009 9:04 PM

In my sequence list I have used several presets repeatedly, going back and forth a couple times.  I was wondering what the behavior of GOTO was when set for presets.

Sequence 1 sample:

Step 65  Preset 129

Step 66  Preset 130

Step 67  Preset 131

Step 68  Preset 130

Step 69  Preset 131

Step 70  Preset 132

Step 71  Preset 136

Step 72  Preset 137

Step 73  Preset 131

 

If I'm sitting in step 71, which step will be loaded if I press "131 GOTO"?

I convinced my LD that instead of re-recording new cues we could just re insert the preset, does anyone have any suggestions on how to not confuse the board op and the SM?

Much thanks

Thomas White

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Step 73.

The rule is "Always jump forward from here."

Remember that sequences 'loop' through Preset Zero by default, so once it passes the 'end', it wraps back to the start and so you'll get the first instance of a given Preset if there aren't any ahead.

Keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Suggested by lidgett

I've wondered that myself when I reuse presets.  The only way I know to get to the exact step you want is to go into the system settings and have the GOTO set to Step instead of preset, then have the board op and SM use the step numbers instead of the preset numbers.  The real problem with this, of course, is if you have to insert a step after everyone has their scripts marked, you have to renumber everything from that point! 

J. R. Lidgett Salina Community Theatre
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Step 73.

The rule is "Always jump forward from here."

Remember that sequences 'loop' through Preset Zero by default, so once it passes the 'end', it wraps back to the start and so you'll get the first instance of a given Preset if there aren't any ahead.

Keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Hi,

If you need to use Goto in your situation, and want to make sure you know to which step you are going to, try using the Goto list. Just press Goto without pressing a number. This will give you a list of all steps (and presets), focus the step you want to jump to and press Goto and the crossfade is started, then close the tab with ESC.

Hope this helps,

Oskar

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Suggested by Richard

Regarding the LD/SM question - use Sequence Texts. I always think of the label on the Preset as the name of the look - i.e. "Kitchen Day" and the Sequence Text as the context of that look - i.e. "Act 2, Scene 3, Joe Enters".

With sequence texts like those, your board op and SM will always know where they are in the list, and you can reuse and manage Presets as you will.

(And the GOTO List is an excellent tool for jumping around in sequences regardless of whether you reuse presets, as you cannot scroll the playback tab. :-))

I hope this helps -

Thanks-

Sarah

 

Sarah Clausen

Controls Product Manager

ETC, Inc.

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Re: inserting new or re-using presets without making the SM renumber his entire script--in this case I typically label the sequence steps "LQ 1" or "LQ 5.3" or whatever is needed for the SM...sometimes I'll add more for my own (board op/lighting designer) reference, i.e. "LQ 9.1 AF sunset" or LQ 4 B.O". On the rare occasion someone else is calling the show, they don't need to care what the Preset # or Step # is.

 

Anne Scheer

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Omaha, NE USA 68102

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Hello Sarah

"And the GOTO List is an excellent tool for jumping around in sequences regardless of whether you reuse presets, as you cannot scroll the playback tab. :-))"

An open GOTO List is not updating (adding)  the new steps in the list  when I record new steps in the reffering sequence?
Is it like that?

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Hi Daniel -

Yes it appears that is true. I will have a chat with Anders about this and see if we can fix it soon.

Thanks!

 

Sarah

Sarah Clausen

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You could also use the GOTO Tab and slect the preset u want. we have taught our board ops to ues that in case of a cue jump.

Russell Wooten Grace Family Church www.gracefamilychurch.org 813-265-4151 x150
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